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作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 10:56     標題: 【Honda再度進軍迷你SUV市場Urban SUV Concept】

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早在十多年前Honda以當家花旦Civic底盤衍生出的小型HRV Real time四驅車種,從而令市佔率大增,十多年後今天Honda重施故技以暢銷車款Jazz/Fit的底盤進行拉長203mm手術,再加入iDCD單摩打配1.5公升四缸i-VTECH引擎混能推動7速雙clutch波箱,從而製作出名為Urban SUV Concept。單從其尺碼及動力級數假想敵為Nissan的Juke,Honda廠方更強調採用鋰電供電的混能系統可比傳統單一汽油引擎慳近30%節能表現。
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 11:10

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早在十多年前Honda以當家花旦Civic底盤衍生出的小型HRV Real time四驅車種,從而令市佔率大增,十多年後今天Honda重施故技以暢銷車款Jazz/Fit的底盤進行拉長203mm手術,再加入iDCD單摩打配1.5公升四缸i-VT ...
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 10:56
好似好正咁
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 11:19

好似好正咁
LHO 發表於 23-1-2013 11:10
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/ikxEtKdhl5o[/flash]

If the size is about the same size as Lexus RX, then it would be nice.....otherwise, I think it would be too much details....
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 11:27

頭差少少, 側面AND尾都好靚
作者: nevillee    時間: 23-1-2013 14:25

頭差少少, 側面AND尾都好靚
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 11:27
但個尾好似冇咩賣點... 同e+市面好相近囉
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 14:30

NOW D 新車全部都玩燈, 前後燈全部都好特別
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 14:48

本帖最後由 sammykwan 於 23-1-2013 14:50 編輯
NOW D 新車全部都玩燈, 前後燈全部都好特別
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 14:30
玩4J 尾板好唔好
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/tOIhJBj2O6Y[/flash]
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 15:26

其實而家啲車重點已經唔講馬力, 係油耗行先!
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 15:47

玩4J 尾板好唔好
http://www.youtube.com/v/tOIhJBj2O6Y
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 14:48
咁似溜冰場果D車?
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 15:49

其實而家啲車重點已經唔講馬力, 係油耗行先!
LHO 發表於 23-1-2013 15:26
其實NOW大吹勢係玩細CC再用細牛來增壓, 歐洲車全部係咁, 日本車仲死唔變, 仲玩NA車...唉...好失望, 對於唔改車的人又慳油又環保, 我地改車果班...改少少馬力已經可以好勁
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 15:53

本帖最後由 sammykwan 於 23-1-2013 15:55 編輯
其實NOW大吹勢係玩細CC再用細牛來增壓, 歐洲車全部係咁, 日本車仲死唔變, 仲玩NA車...唉...好失望, 對於唔改車的人又慳油又環保, 我地改車果班...改少少馬力已經可以好勁 ...
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 15:49
that's not fully correct.....I think they are going for different approach.

The idea of vtec when it was first came out, that surprised the whole world......

now most of the N/A car is copying it's idea......
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 15:55

that's not fully correct.....I think they are going for different approach.
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 15:53
咩APPROACH?
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 15:57

本帖最後由 sammykwan 於 23-1-2013 15:59 編輯
咩APPROACH?
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 15:55
Honda in the last decade Honda has a V6 engine which can run on 3 cylinder at idle or low loading....that was very advance too. (I think it was called Variable Cylinder Management V6 ivtec engine)
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 15:59

其實NOW大吹勢係玩細CC再用細牛來增壓, 歐洲車全部係咁, 日本車仲死唔變, 仲玩NA車...唉...好失望, 對於唔改車的人又慳油又環保, 我地改車果班...改少少馬力已經可以好勁 ...
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 15:49
咁你重唔換車
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:01

that's not fully correct.....I think they are going for different approach.

The idea of vtec when it was first came out, that surprised the whole world......

now most of the N/A car is copying it' ...
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 15:53
非常正確, 豐田同三菱第一時間做呢樣嘢
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:05

非常正確, 豐田同三菱第一時間做呢樣嘢
LHO 發表於 23-1-2013 16:01
Toyota, BMW, Audi all copy la....
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:09

Toyota, BMW, Audi all copy la....
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:05
BM同Audi無咁快
當年第一間抄係三菱, 跟住係toyota
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:10

本帖最後由 sammykwan 於 23-1-2013 16:14 編輯

by the way, the lifetime of a turbo charger doesn't last as long as an engine, so the maintenance cost will be much higher to have a turbo charger.
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:13

by the way, the lifetime of a turbo charger is not as good as an engine, so the maintenance cost will be much higher to have a turbo charger.
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:10
其實supercharge比turbo好, superchare嘅power線性好多
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 16:17

其實supercharge比turbo好, superchare嘅power線性好多
LHO 發表於 23-1-2013 16:13
YES...聽車房講話如果真係想後加, 千奇唔好加TURBO, 真係好快玩殘副ENGINE, SUPERCHARE就溫和好多, 玩得過
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:21

YES...聽車房講話如果真係想後加, 千奇唔好加TURBO, 真係好快玩殘副ENGINE, SUPERCHARE就溫和好多, 玩得過
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 16:17
I won't trust those auto shop tell you to install such toys.........

by the way, Taiwan has alot of retro fit turbo kits......I really wonder if they have consider the tolerance of the transmission.
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 16:23

I won't trust those auto shop tell you to install such toys.........

by the way, Taiwan has alot of retro fit turbo kits......I really wonder if they have consider the tolerance of the transmission ...
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:21
所以我最後都係安份守紀!!!!
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:24

YES...聽車房講話如果真係想後加, 千奇唔好加TURBO, 真係好快玩殘副ENGINE, SUPERCHARE就溫和好多, 玩得過
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 16:17
mini咪行supercharge囉, 我老表果部係works cooper S, 你有機會問佢借嚟揸個圈, 真係好L快!
同一搬cooper s唔同!
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:24

redesign the chassis structure and use lighter weight material on the frame are the other approach to improve the performance.
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:25

所以我最後都係安份守紀!!!!
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 16:23

作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:26

mini咪行supercharge囉, 我老表果部係works cooper S, 你有機會問佢借嚟揸個圈, 真係好L快!
同一搬cooper s唔同!
LHO 發表於 23-1-2013 16:24
that's was the 1st gen new Mini....the 2nd gen new Mini already changed to turbo....coz the design of Chrysler engine is real bad.....
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:27

that's was the 1st gen new Mini....the 2nd gen new Mini already changed to turbo....coz the design of Chrysler engine is real bad.....
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:26
又行返牛?
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 16:29

mini咪行supercharge囉, 我老表果部係works cooper S, 你有機會問佢借嚟揸個圈, 真係好L快!
同一搬cooper s唔同!
LHO 發表於 23-1-2013 16:24
聽到佢架車的聲都知咩料
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:30

聽到佢架車的聲都知咩料
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 16:29
上手已經係works改
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:32

又行返牛?
LHO 發表於 23-1-2013 16:27
2nd Gen Mini engine is BMW x Peugeot design......and BMW is good at making turbo engine...I won't surprise about such move.....
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:36

本帖最後由 sammykwan 於 23-1-2013 16:38 編輯

aerodynamic can also improve the performance.....and Honda have even consider the idea of making 7 seaters with low center of mass.....which can keep the same spacious with lower body, and take corners at faster speed to reduce the wastage on braking.
作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 16:40

aerodynamic can also improve the performance.....and Honda have even consider the idea of making 7 seaters with low center of mass.....which can keep the same spacious with lower body, and take corner ...
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:36
咁TOYOTA有咩好野?
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:47

咁TOYOTA有咩好野?
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 16:40
save cost on auto fold mirror to increase their profit margin.
作者: LHO    時間: 23-1-2013 16:50

save cost on auto fold mirror to increase their profit margin.
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:47

作者: cliffchow    時間: 23-1-2013 16:52

save cost on auto fold mirror to increase their profit margin.
sammykwan 發表於 2013-1-23 16:47
巧剪呀, 笑出聲啦 ...
作者: b2bxhk1    時間: 23-1-2013 16:55

Honda in the last decade Honda has a V6 engine which can run on 3 cylinder at idle or low loading....that was very advance too. (I think it was called Variable Cylinder Management V6 ivtec engine)
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 15:57
Correct ... e.g. Honda Elyson is using this tech !
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 16:58

本帖最後由 sammykwan 於 23-1-2013 17:03 編輯
巧剪呀, 笑出聲啦 ...
cliffchow 發表於 23-1-2013 16:52
另一个好野就係一个車型設計用足卄年

Previa - over 20 years
Prius - over 10 years
Toyota Century - over 40 years
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 17:13

Toyota's Prius is the pioneer of hybrid car la.
作者: cliffchow    時間: 23-1-2013 17:19

Honda in the last decade Honda has a V6 engine which can run on 3 cylinder at idle or low loading....that was very advance too. (I think it was called Variable Cylinder Management V6 ivtec engine)
sammykwan 發表於 2013-1-23 15:57
If Supercharge/Turbo Vs Idle system (谷 Vs HEA)

I prefer HEA ... I like this HEA working style,
作者: eric0754    時間: 23-1-2013 17:22

save cost on auto fold mirror to increase their profit margin.
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:47

作者: Daniel    時間: 23-1-2013 21:16

另一个好野就係一个車型設計用足卄年

Previa - over 20 years
Prius - over 10 years
Toyota Century - over 40 years
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:58
但toyota係全港最好賣的品牌,價錢都最硬,toyota必勝!!!!!
作者: sammykwan    時間: 23-1-2013 21:36

但toyota係全港最好賣的品牌,價錢都最硬,toyota必勝!!!!!
Daniel 發表於 23-1-2013 21:16
都係既
作者: b2bxhk1    時間: 24-1-2013 08:52

save cost on auto fold mirror to increase their profit margin.
sammykwan 發表於 23-1-2013 16:47

作者: sammykwan    時間: 24-1-2013 08:56

最近係街度留意到有部七人車MarkX Zio,同美版既Venza外型好似
作者: hkben    時間: 24-1-2013 09:03

最近係街度留意到有部七人車MarkX Zio,同美版既Venza外型好似
sammykwan 發表於 24-1-2013 08:56
有冇電摺鏡?
作者: Daniel    時間: 24-1-2013 09:06

有冇電摺鏡?
hkben 發表於 24-1-2013 09:03
PULLEY A MORE




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